Thursday, May 25, 2006

I am not pro reservation...


...but I am not anti reservation either.

I would like to start this post with some facts and figures:
Total population of India: 1,028,610,328
SC/ST Population: 250,961,940 (~25%)
OBC Population: No definitive number, assumed to be around 52%
Percentage of Upper Caste: ~22%

The Consitution of India bars reservation beyond 50%.

I have been pretty unconcerned (read cold) toward this reservation issue but there was a big debate at work yesterday and every one was throwing up numbers in the air. So I went back and tried gathering as much information on the net before I had anything further to say. My sources include the Census of India, newspapers and some reports I found on the matters, a few of which also talk about the Mandal Commission. I know its really sad to know that more than 75% of the population of India is considered backward but lets move on...

Part I - On Social Justice:

Firstly who constitues the Other Backward classes?

The Mandal commission proposed 3 categories to identify the OBCs depending on social, economic and educational backwardness. A detailed description is given in Identifying OBCs.

I am not very convinced about the different parameters used to evalute whether a particular group belongs to the OBC or not, but it definitely talks about sections of society that are deprived.

India still remains a nation of extremely poor people. The central estimate is pegged around 40% but I belive it is somewhere in the range of 55-60%. I know, it hurts to accept the fact that more than 60 years after independence, majority of the population is still living in such a pitiable situation. More so because of the callousness of people who are affluent and can bring in change. But this post is not intended towards the social indifference in the Indian society.

Hence most of the people who would get affected by the reservation are people who belong to the upper/middle caste. The middle cast constitutes about 7% of the Indian population. Of the upper class 10% have so much money that they do not really care about the reservation issue, they can always send their kids aboard for studies if they WANT to. So doing some simple arithmetic the fraction of the population that is getting affected in an adverse manner if at all is about 12%.

Another EXTREMELY important aspect of governance. Goverments are not run like corporates and thankfully so. They have to keep the benefit of the masses in mind !!

So of the goverment thats affects 50% of the population in a positive manner at least makes social sense. I know there are other ways of improving the situation, like good primary education, vocational education, micro-finance initiatives but all this would take time and effort and initiatives are already on their way in these directions too. But coming back to question of reservation, if this reservation helps someone get education and a job later, his entire family transforms. The turn around time is much less in this scenario.

Part II - On Education

Now lets talk about meritocracy, and let me tell you all this talk about meritocracy is pure balony and nothing else. The only places in India that where one can get good educations are the top tier colleges like the IITs, AIIMS, BITS, a couple of others and of course DU. But once you move away from the these colleges, the quality of education decreases exponentially. All education means in India is just getting a degree. I have hardly come across anyone who really learnt something during their college days and yeah I HAVE interacted with a lot of people. The second/third tier colleges are dime a dozen and many more would mushroom if there is a demand for them, so the students going there should not be really alarmed.

Now coming back to the premier institutes. They still have 50% seats thats are based on Merit. The very best will still get in, and if you really care about meritocracy thats all you want. People getting into these insitutes would be more focused and determined about their goals in life because the competition is so much tougher. People wont just land up in IIT because thats what everyone around them aspires to do. Then and only then would we have good Engineers/Doctors in the true sense of the word. And even if 20% of these students were really good, thats all it would take to change the country. Sadly thats not the case (maybe another post on that sometime...). So as far as retaining the best talent is concerened this "current" system of reservation does nothing to hinder the growth of true merit. People with true caliber would still go places in this scenario.

Now lets consider someone who belongs to the general category and was just on the border and would get rejected because of this act. He does have an option, an option to work harder and make it to the insitute. And is working hard bad? A developing country like India needs people who work really hard!!!

After my little research I feel various organizations like Youth for Equality are fighting a non-issue. They should have fought when the standards of IIT-JEE were smashed, they should have revolted when the number of IITs were being increased. India does not have enuf Profs to teach in the existing IITs where will they get profs for 11 more IITs. These are things that would have really taken down the name of IIT but we didn't hear even a whimper of protest. Did these people take up to the roads when they discovered the sorry state of affairs in primary education, or Narmada Dam issue for that matter. There are so many more important issues that need addressing, but alas their selfish motive is blind to them.

The reservation helps a major section of the society in a positive way and makes things a little harder for a smaller section. I really do not see how that is a cause for such uproar until all those protesting want is things made easier for them, easier for them to get into colleges to get jobs. India at this juncture can ill affoard these luxuries. And they talk about MERITOCRACY !!!! I am amused...

Part III - On Autonomy of Educational Insitutes

The only reason that concerns me about this reservation issue is the ease by which the Legislature can affect the course of education in this country. It is not reservation but the power of the Legislature to govern and change the functioning of colleges is what irks me. And this is not something that should be allowed in a Knowlege based society. US is what it is today because of private universities, that have complete autonomy in their governance. Sadly in India all these good colleges are goverment funded, and whereever thats the case the funding agency decides the course of research and teaching in the country. This flaws plagues not only India but a lot of European countries like Germany. They used to produce the BEST engineer till about the 40's but now they are reduced to second rate counterparts of the US univs. I hope people with capital (the big corporates, alumni of the premier institutes) realise this flaw in the educational system and take steps to change it before its too late. These should be private insitutes of the stature of MIT, Standford and Yale.

And after all the deliberations I think it makes sense to have some kind of reservation. What kind and what percentage I am not knowledgeable enough to comment.

At the end: I DO NOT approve of students getting beaten up during the demonstrations but at the same time I do not approve of students taking to streets for solving their problems. What then is the difference between people who attend Laloo's rally and the ones who attend the Maha Rally of the medicos/engineers. I believe it is just cheap mindless theatrics in a fit of josh.

There could have been more ways of solving the problems of poverty, of backwardness. This is one way and the numbers show that if implmented in a correct manner they would indeed affect the society positively. If not you better come up with an action plan before you curse the goverment for their deeds.

What is the current goverment's motive behind the reservation, and would they be able to implement it in a fair way? I don't know.

Jai Hind

References:
Census of India
Positive Discrimination in India: A Political Analysis
Identifying OBCs

12 comments:

. said...

btw, how can 500 odd seats uplift the future of 200 million people?
Why should reservation be given at UG/PG/Jobs simutaneously?
What was the purpose of the IIT in the first place???

Kumar Anshul said...

You have forcefully argued in favour of reservation, and you have a point when you say that general category is about 22% only whereas unreserved seats are about 50%. I believe there shouldn't be any reserved seat, but there could be another way of positive discrimination. Please see my blog www.anshulk.blogspot.com to find out more. - Anshul, Ahmedabad.

barbarindian said...

I oppose reservations in any form. It is simple really, when a student writes an exam, it is a contract. Violating that contract is immoral.

I do not think the goal of a country should be to uplift any section. People do not need looking after. The goal of a Government should be to upheld laws, for instance, if a Dalit kid is denied a seat despite scoring the same as another, it should come down on the institute with all they got. The goal of a Government should be to create policies that help generation of wealth because it all trickles down.

According to estimates used by Fortune magazine, the size of the Indian middle class is now about 300 millions.

Anonymous said...

I think I have not received any emal or forward which are pro to this reservation, because, the IT and other major sectors are filled with general merit catagory which 20% of th indian population.

Opportunity makes the ultimate sense than any mentoring,support,guidence or even hardwork.

Anonymous said...

I am definitely anti-reservation..... the picture u've posted is an OBC person..it made me feel that maybe that much % of reservation is better for them, but then think of non-OBC's who depend on their calibre alone with no reservation.... its unfair to non-OBC's when they have such large reservation for OBC. I do not think it was "too much" of people to talk and debate abt reservation coz it affects every family.... everyone ... talk abt education... i think they shud have more proper structure.. than just quota and stuff... u kno ppl who dont deserve it shudnt be forced into colleges just coz they have reservation n stuff!

Anonymous said...

“The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal.”-Aristotle

This is strictly from the point of view of merit and intelligence and competence.Having said that-its amazing how racism rears its ugly head in various disguises.Some countries work towards eradicating it because its "wrong" while others promote it because its "just"

Incidentally I am pro 22% reservation for GC- only in Parliament!Like that's ever gonna happen.Politics is a dirty game.You're first paragraph might as well have been a break-up of the vote bank.My unborn children have no future in this circus.

Anonymous said...

Hi Vibhanshu,
You definitely made me rethink on this issue in which I was taking a side against it.

Just a few things though:

1. 2 members of the Knowledge Commission resigned. You could read their resignation letters for their perspectives. Surely these knowledgeable men had their reasons. Not necessarily anti reservation but the way the government is in a "hurry" to implement them.

2. Decisions in the favour of reservation will not be undone in the future. So, while the entire concept of reservation was to bring "equality", there is no provision at all for "rethinking" the quotas (and their amounts) based on future census etc. in the future (next 30~50 years).

3. This is 100% politics. Nothing more. Consider the interview of Mr. Arjun Singh with Karan Thapar. Surely you must have read that one. Surely you must have read our "knowledgeable" "economist" Mr. Chidambaram who instead of quoting actual numbers had only to say "Reservations work because life proves it".

But, behind all this talk and protests, I realized how we as the privileged, display a collective apathy towards the other India.

I will read through the documents you linked to and think again.

-Supriyo

Unknown said...

Firstly my post is about reservation a s a policy, not about this particular instance of the UPA government promoting reservation. I do know know what their motives might be and why they haven't provided justification for their stand.

Secondly, my deduction is based solely on the numbers. If the break up was different then my analysis of the situation would have been completely different.

Shireesh: Its not just 500 seats, its all engineering, medical colleges in the country. IITs were formulated to usher the country in the new era. Everyone knows it is currently as far away from this objective as possible.

Anshul: Will go through your blog and comment there :)

Barbarindian: Well I really dont think you really understand whats a goverment's responsibility in a country. The legislature formulates policies for the development of the nation (read citizens of the country) and its the role of the judiciary to promote these laws. I dont think 300 million is a good figure. Only 25% of the population is urban, and you want to assume that all of it is middle class? Further a lot of this 300 millions would also comprise OBCs.

Girl, Tess: See OBCs are not SC/ST, these too are very competitive people. And if u dont think so you just mean to say that 77% of the population is worthless. LOL !!

Tess: The vote bank would look more like

SC/ST - 55%
OBCs - 35%
Others - 10%

Sups: I agree with your first point but the second one really dosent make any sense. In 30 yrs time let the goverment then decide. Abt the third one read the beginning of this comment :)

Sanjiv: This is a post on pure numbers and cold rational. No heartwarming stuff :)

Anonymous said...

Hi Vibhanshu,

This is the first time I am coming accross an article which talks about pro-reservation (though ur title says u r not pro reservation). Your numbers and facts and your deductions based on these facts are fascinating.

However, I would like to ask you something. How many students who've got into IITs, through reservations, have been able to successfully pass out of these institutes and are successful in their jobs at this moment? Your study will not be complete without this analysis. This is just to point out whether these students, who get into the prestigious institutions like IITs through reservations are able to cope up with the pressure, henceforth.

Are you willing to sacrifice the seats to these students rather than the ones who actually deserve to be there?

Your analysis definitely does prove a point that there're enough and more seats for the so-called "middle class". But is it worth it? Are the so-called "backward class" people able to cope up with the rigorous academic pressures and syllabii?

-- Sujay Viswanath

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir/Madam,
Even if reservation is desirable on moral grounds, how will it get implemented? All the above reservation rules require a person to have a caste certificate to get the benefit of reservation. Unfortunately, there are many dishonest people who will get fake/fraudulent certificates. NDTV did an sting operation expose of this where a person got a fake certificate from a tout. If you want to impose reservation, how will you solve this problem?

Anonymous said...

Good English, but does not make sense at all!!!

Anki said...

Reservation as envisaged by our "Oh-So competent" government is not EMPOWERMENT...years of bad governance , bureaucratic corruption and lack of political will combined with the histrican damage we inherited...has rendered Indian society unequal..who will hold them accountable...no one??? (Finally we got RTI but its destiny seems to be passing in the hands of our bureaucrats with every passing day)

By shelling out 3000 odd seats in higher education institutions...will this disparity dissapear...or divide this society...its time we see through the political rhetoric and hold them accountable for failing to provide the disadvantaged groups their basic rights!
Positive discrimination at the end of day ....has the word "discrimination " attached to it.